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Thursday, 27 July 2017
Transcript

Interview with David Koch, Channel Seven ‘Sunrise’

Subjects: Cassie Sainsbury; Senator Matt Canavan; new border technology.

E&EO………………………………………………………..

DAVID KOCH:

Peter Dutton joins me now. Will the Australian Government provide any assistance to Cassie Sainsbury?

PETER DUTTON:

Well Kochie, like any Australian that’s in trouble overseas, there will be consular assistance. Ultimately though, the warning needs to go out as we’ve seen in Bali and as we’re seeing now with this case as well, people need to abide by the laws of that country. If not, they will face serious consequences.

DAVID KOCH:

Do you or do we fund her legal costs at all?

PETER DUTTON:

No. That'll be an issue for her.

DAVID KOCH:

Just quickly to the citizenship issue engulfing the Government at the moment, reports this morning Senator Matt Canavan's dual citizenship may have been automatically revoked by the Italians which have this law that says if you become a politician or join someone else’s army it’s automatically revoked.

PETER DUTTON:

Well it’s a pretty quirky circumstance and I think obviously it’s been referred off to the High Court so they can look at all of the facts involved. But Matt Canavan wasn’t born in Italy, he was born in Australia, his mum was born here and so it does look like an unintended consequence, something he didn’t know about, but let’s wait to see what the Court says.

DAVID KOCH:

When you think about it, the Italians had the right idea. Why don't we just do that here? We have the most multicultural society in the world, if you become a politician, it is automatically revoked from another country.

PETER DUTTON:

Well you would have to change the Constitution. So at the moment the Constitution has that requirement and there would need to be a change and whether or not that would be supported by the public, I guess we would test it, but at the moment that’s the legal requirement.

DAVID KOCH:

Okay. For those who like hopping between countries, you are announcing changes to the way international passengers are processed upon arrival in Australia. You’re announcing that today.

PETER DUTTON:

Yeah it’s a $22.5 million investment over the next three years which will see 105 SmartGates rolling out and that will increase dramatically the number of gates were people are coming in.

So, you know, there is frustration when plane lands, you hop of the A380 or whatever it might be, long queues – the idea of this will be through new technology – that is using facial recognition – that in some cases if you’ve got a passport that can be read you won’t even have to present the passport, it will pick you up by the face and it will make it much quicker going through the immigration process. Bearing in mind there are 40 million people who came across our borders last year and within three years that’s going to 50 million. So the idea is to try and reduce the time people are waiting in queues.

DAVID KOCH:

See Australian passports will do this now – we all use it. So you’re saying that this will be extended to foreign tourists?

PETER DUTTON:

It will extend it out to more countries and some people might be carrying passports as you say, dual citizens for example even if they’re Australian citizens, might be travelling on their US passport for some reason. So it really modernises that. The technology is pretty impressive.

DAVID KOCH:

So when the photo, when the camera goes off, does it just match it to your passport photo to make sure you are who you are or does it go to one of your databases to check for criminal records and things like that?

PETER DUTTON:

It goes to the detail within the passport, but there is also the database of those passports. So it will crossmatch, it won't do an immediate check in terms of somebody's criminal record or whether or not they have misbehaved overseas, they’re generally picked up before that time.

So we have Airport Liaison Officers in most major hubs, so Dubai for example, KL, elsewhere and people will generally be offloaded or prevented from getting on the plane in the first place.

DAVID KOCH:

Okay it’s fascinating technology and you’ve got rid of the departure card thank you, that was always annoying. Good to see you.

PETER DUTTON:

Thanks Kochie