Topics: Fast track processing of illegal maritime arrivals, Australia Day citizenship ceremonies
OLIVER PETERSON: The Labor Party and the Greens, well, they're playing politics with our
borders. They have teamed up to block government legislation aimed at fast tracking illegal
boat arrivals.
To discuss, the Immigration Minister is David Coleman, who joins us live on the radio this
afternoon.
Hello, Minister.
DAVID COLEMAN: Good afternoon, Oly.
OLIVER PETERSON: Firstly, Labor argues that the fast track policy is not fast nor fair. Why do
they want to team up with the Greens? Why do they want to scrap it?
DAVID COLEMAN: Well, they always team up with the Greens on these border protection
issues, Oly, and they've never been believers in border security. It was on their watch that
50,000 people arrived and 8000 kids were placed in detention and tragically, 1200 people
drowned at sea.
What this is about is, we've got a process now when if someone who arrived by boat doesn't
like the decision, there’s a process for review of that decision, usually it takes about 23 days. Labor and the Greens want to have a different process that takes more than 500 days. This
is for people who arrived years and years ago under Labor, and now Labor is basically saying
they want the processing time to take even longer, even though they're the ones
responsible for these people being here in the first place.
OLIVER PETERSON: Why is that the case, David Coleman? Why do they want it to take over
500 days?
DAVID COLEMAN: Well, Kristina Keneally said that our process is neither fast nor fair and
she's completely wrong because it's definitely fast. It's only about 23 days on average. And
the High Court has found that it is a fair process and the former High Court judge Ian
Callinan, in a review of these matters, found the same thing. So it is fair. It gives people the
opportunity to put forward their case. But what it doesn't do is create a whole new process,
like a court-type process with witnesses and new information being introduced and all those
things that drags on and on, and nor should it because this is a fair process, but it's a process
that can be done quickly. And it's the right process and Labor and the Greens want to get rid
of it to make this take even longer.
OLIVER PETERSON: Alright. So if they're successful in teaming up with this disallowance
motion, how many boat arrivals would no longer be considered as fast track applicants?
DAVID COLEMAN: Well, this specifically applies to 4000 people, Oly. So there'll be 4000
people who if they try to appeal, instead of going 23 days, it'll be 500 and every one of those
4000 people are people who arrived under Labor when they lost control of our borders.
OLIVER PETERSON: So at the moment, the fast track system, if somebody arrived by boat in
Australia - and I don't believe we've had anybody arrive in the last 23 days that we know
about - how long will it take to process their claims for asylum in the first phase?
DAVID COLEMAN: Well, it can take quite a long time, Oly, because a lot of the people who
arrived, in fact, the vast majority of the people who arrived under Labor, we don't have
identity documents, there's no passports. So just the process of actually assessing it can take
actually years to determine the identity of these people and assess their claims. This issue is
about after that's happened and they want to appeal, we say: alright, well, we've already
gone through this process to assess you, we'll have a fast track appeal process, 23 days. Labor says: no, that's not enough. They want to team up with the Greens to make that a
much longer 500-day plus process.
OLIVER PETERSON: We have heard from the Greens senator Nick McKim, who says this has
no impact at all on border security, but what it does do is have an impact on people who are
in an extremely vulnerable group. What would you say back to Nick McKim?
DAVID COLEMAN: Well, what I'd say to Nick McKim is that with Labor and the Greens and
their disastrous handling of these policies that led directly to 50,000 people arriving and
lead directly to appalling humanitarian consequences - not to mention $17 billion and
counting to Australian taxpayers. So, we manage these processes in an orderly way. We
stopped the boats and we manage these appeal processes in an efficient way. Labor wants
to send the message that you can stay and appeal and appeal and appeal. And what we say
is: appeal processes need to be efficient and not drag on forever, and Labor is saying they
want it to take much longer.
OLIVER PETERSON: On another matter, what do you think about Port Phillip Council in
Victoria wanting to hold a Morning for Mourning event on Australia Day?
DAVID COLEMAN: Well, look, what we've done, Oly, is say that this year, every council
needs to hold a citizenship ceremony on Australia Day and there were, as you know, a
number of councils that, for political reasons, were saying they weren't going to do it in
previous years. So a few weeks ago, I changed the Citizenship Code of Australia to require all
councils, except for the very smallest councils, to have a citizenship ceremony on Australia
Day.
Now, my understanding is that this council will be holding a citizenship ceremony on
Australia Day, and that's my focus. That's a good thing and that's a requirement, because if
councils don't want to hold citizenship ceremonies on Australia Day, we will require - we will
take away their right to hold citizenship ceremonies because Australia Day is a really
important day. It's our national day. There's no better day to become a citizen than Australia
Day. This year, we're going to be requiring all councils, except for the very smallest, to make
sure that happens.
OLIVER PETERSON: Are you disappointed though that this sort of an event would go ahead
at the Port Phillip Council on Australia Day?
DAVID COLEMAN: Well, look, I'm not fully across what the council is planning and matters
for the council about how they run their affairs is a matter for them. What I'm focused on is
citizenship ceremonies, making sure we get as many people as possible to have the
opportunity of becoming an Australian on Australia Day, and we're not going to have
councils create political reasons to not hold citizenship ceremonies. We're not going to
accept that. We're not going to have councils say it's too hot to hold a ceremony on
Australia Day, or it's inconvenient, or all the various excuses. We're not going to accept that. And as a result, I think what we'll see this year is a very, very significant number of people
become citizens on Australia Day, and that's a great thing.
OLIVER PETERSON: Minister, appreciate your time. Thank you very much.
DAVID COLEMAN: Thanks Oly
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